Interview by Fabio Colagrande. Courtesy of Vatican Radio-Translation by Una Voce Carmel
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A year after the publication of the Motu Proprio Summorum Pontificum by HH Benedict XVI, a concrete pastoral consequence of the papal document is the creation, on June 8th, 2007, of the ‘personal’ parish of Santissima Trinita dei Pellegrini, in the center of diocese of Rome. It’s the first paroquial community in Italy following the application of article 10 [see below] of the Motu Proprio which is not based on geography but on the type of rite, made up of faithful attached to the ancient form of the Roman Rite. The parish, established by decree from the Cardinal Vicar at the request of the Pope, has been entrusted to don Joseph Kramer, FSSP, an Australian, now in Italy for more than 30 years.
don Kramer – The opening has gone very well: we are all very happy. This has generated a lot of interest – even the press is covering it – and since that date people are coming to Church to see what it’s all about. This is a personal parish not linked to geography. It’s open to all the faithful who want to receive the Sacraments and Holy Mass, according to the ancient form of the Roman Rite. This is a parish that had to be set up for long distance parishioners. The difficulty is in fact, that people live far away and have to come in. The idea is not only to have the Mass, but all the Sacraments – Baptism, Matrimony – as well as feasts such as Lent and Easter.
Fabio Colagrande – Who are the parishioners, don Joseph?
don Kramer – It varies – people of all ages, many young people, families with small children, people around 50 who remembered the rite but who are happy to see the Church restore the rite to its rightful place in the life of the Church. Also, the local population is very happy to see us here, with the ancient rite, and that we have reopened a church which has been closed for years.
Fabio Colagrande – Cardinal Castillon Hoyos [president of the Eclessia Dei commission] has said that the establishment of personal parishes has an exemplary value for other dioceses, not only in Italy but around the world…
don Kramer – Yes, because Rome is always the example, the central city of all of Catholicism. And now, other bishops have decided to open such parishes following Rome’s example, which is very important.
Fabio Colagrande – Father Kramer, is it correct to say your parish is made up of traditionalists?
don Kramer – This parish is for all the catholic faithful, who appreciate the ancient form, who do not belong in a special category such as traditionalism. Desire for the ancient form does not necessarily mean you are a traditionalist. It’s our desire to see this rite be integrated into the daily fabric of the Church. And we are very, very grateful to the Cardinal Vicar for this opportunity to enter into the life of the Church and to not be considered a “separate flock” outside of regular norms.
Art. 10. The ordinary of a particular place, if he feels it appropriate, may erect a personal parish in accordance with can. 518 for celebrations following the ancient form of the Roman rite, or appoint a chaplain, while observing all the norms of law.
HH Benedict XVI, Motu Proprio, Summorun Pontificum, July 7th, 2007